General Requests

[hexaus]

Regarding Gaduridos and Valruzia:

1. What are your roleplay intentions regarding that country and how could a ProNat status help with those intentions?
   
2. Do you intend to remain in your country for as long as you are able to implement your intentions for those countries?
   

As explained in my first message, though I suppose I'll add more:

The plan we have together is a long-term pan-Seleyan arc, to eventually form a geopolitical monstrosity that is the "United States of Seleya" based on the Syria + Egypt "United Arab Republic," in that even though we don't share a border and it is probably a bureaucratic nightmare, we share the vibes of pan-Seleyan ideology. But, as it currently stands, neither Gaduridos nor especially Valruzia are "ready" RP-wise for such a drastic transition. The arc will take at least 30 years, as I am RPing 21 political parties in Valruzia, and several competing social movements that I am tracking in extensive word documents on my PC. It would take this long because Valruzia is currently led by a centre-right party, that is only pro-Seleyan because it has to be to get confidence and supply. Over the course of decades, I plan to slowly transition this into an actual pro-Seleyan government led by the Seleyan Social Democrats who will team up with the PSSG in Gaduridos to form the United States of Seleya. The USS will have lots of RP potential, between boring mundane tariffs on cheese imports from Artania to major geopolitical responses that would need to be negotiated between Weim and I. 

This arc is incredibly fragile, as all it takes is a new party in Valruzia and my 21 party RP becomes useless. I can't successfully model a centre-right government with confidence and supply from the liberals and left-wing, if my party controls 151/300 seats because that makes no sense, there's no room left for the right-wing parties in my seat count. All it takes is one new party who doesn't respect my small-scale RPs of county names, city names, mayors, city council majorities, local elections, all of which I am currently tracking. I would be very, very upset as a player if I got hoodwinked on the promise of a ProNat (which Weim and I proposed to Greek to protect players who feel like trolls ruin the game, not for older players who have been active in a nation for a long time) and then crafted endless small-scale details RP just for that to get washed away with the rain.

Here's the conundrum.

Both you and Weim fit both criteria. You've both displayed ability and commitment to long-term quality RP and you both have a history of sportsmanlike behaviour and in international RP with other players, as players. That's the spirit of ProNat - aka removing nations from the roster of available countries and giving them to Doc the Kalistani, Hyraemous the Kundratijan, Hexaus the Valruzian and Weimarska the Gaduri.

Unlike Second Accounts and FBCs, ProNats are focused on national identity through a member of our small community of players. It's not about the older players who have been active in a nation for a long time nor the small-scale details RP. 

It's about covering both criteria of ProNats without actually needing a ProNat. Doc has undergone through a lot of trolls. Hyraemous went through a shitload of IC adversity through Kundrati. The Baltusian players also. They're still there. At the risk of sounding harsh, you and Weim already left Gaduridos last time it got visitors who did not adhere to your plans. And your comment above has phrases like "incredibly fragile" and "get washed away with the rain" - indicators that don't exactly inspire confidence of "sticking around" at the point of locking a nation.

At this point you might say, "but Greek, how can we stick around without a ProNat".

Fair question.

Are you Hexaus the Valruzian and Weimarska the Gaduri?

Do you see yourself being that a year from now?

The plan, without a ProNat, is "incredibly fragile." As in, if someone joins Valruzia and the project is not protected, the new player can end the project and there is nothing I can do besides wait and hope they leave or I win power again.

Do I see myself in Valruzia in a year? If I have a ProNat and am allowed to do the USS without fear of a player joining in one week and saying they don't want to do that anymore, yes.

If I'm left with no protection of my RP project then no, because in one year a new player will have joined and abandoned the project. I didn't leave Gaduridos due to declining interest, I left because a new player joined and scrapped my entire RP - not changed the direction, straight up said "I don't care about the Senate, I'm not acknowledging it."

If Valruzia had a ProNat, there is literally no possibility of a new player joining and scrapping my RP, so why would I leave like I did with Gaduridos?

I'm just really confused with this criticism, as it reads:

"If you are given a ProNat (which prevents new players), what's to keep you from leaving when a new player joins?"

If I had a ProNat, there would be no new players to derail the RP.