Renaming & Cultural Protocol update for Trigunia

[Svetlana]

Overview

• I don't see why the previous overview needs to change at all. It was much more robust and gave some historical context for how and why certain populations are there.

The OOC reason for why I changed the overview is mainly for the sake of simplicity when it comes to new players because simplifying the overview by mentioning that T/N is based on Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus would help players understand more easily what the nation is about and how to plan accordingly. Also the mention of regions would allow for more freedom when it comes to that aspect especially since those mentions states don't exist anymore. But I am fine with keeping the overview the same as it isn't that much of an issue to me personally.

"Nova Baegukyan"

• Nova Baegukyan (NB from hereon) appears to be your invention. If a new player came to Trigunia/Nadiya (T/N from hereon) and wanted to know what language to use to represent NB, what should they use? Is this a real life language? How should it be classified in the Guo-Wolf classification? T/N has two lingua franca already - why would refugees from Baeguk not learn these languages (in an already very language-rich environment, surely that would be practical?) - it's not like they were isolated and made to remain unassimilated, the whole point of your RP as far as I can tell is making everyone Nadiyan - what would be the impetus for refugees from Baeguk and their descendants to create their own pidgin? I also will be frank that I just don't like the name - "Baegukyan" is not a language - Kyo is. I am assuming the bulk of refugees from Baeguk would have been Kyo people - Why would these people and their language be named in such a way? Tldr: I think it's fine for some linguistic mixing to occur between Rodshyan and Kyo in the refugee community in T/N, but for that to end up meaning a totally new ethnic group and language feels unlikely to me. I'd prefer the ethnicity and language both to be called "Kyo".

The main inspiration I had behind naming them the Nova Beagukiyans was the area known as Novo Rossia in southeastern Ukraine, but you did raise some valid points about the Beagukiyan part which I agree with now. I would be okay with renaming NB and their language back to Kyo to handle this concern.

Language

• This is one of my biggest concerns with the CP as you present it - if we approve this CP change, I would start flagging future use of Kyo/NB language on official documents as OOC CP violations. I've always been on the edge about it anyway - the Kyo language is not on Trigunia's existing CP - but I have always given you benefit of the doubt that your use of it was an official government policy of affirmative action (I've read Martin, too). This proposed CP makes clear that OOCly Kyo/NB is not an official language in T/N, so I can only therefore interpret use of Kyo/NB to be out of fit with the CP (both the old and the proposed). I think you have two options here: 1) update the languages section to be more specific about linguistic distribution, and make Kyo/NB a large enough distribution to warrant use on official documents. The issue here is that I will almost certainly oppose any number you propose, for reasons I outlined above in the NB section OR 2) leave the Language section as is and stop using Kyo/NB on IC stuff. I prefer the latter.

To be honest with you, I barely use Kyo in my logos since I tend to automatically use English on official government logos for the sake of simplicity (I only make logos that had Kyo/NB writing on them like 2 times lol) and already the names of cities in Northern Radin are mostly Korean city names russified with Novo before them if the city is based on one existing in Beaguk (like York and New York, Jersey and New Jersey). Ideally I would've liked to keep Kyo/NB in the language section but I would be fine with it being removed while Rodshyan and Kozaki's status as unifying languages remain the same.

Religion

• The proposed increase from 0% to 40% for the Matriarchal church is just too much. Very similar to language above, I gave the benefit of the doubt in your RP and made the OOC conclusion that when you wrote on 17 Jan 2025 that the church had grown from 3 million to 30 million relative to your post on 14 Jan 2025 (4 real life days between posts means a max of 2 in game years), surely that must have been IC propaganda that was not actually true OOC. It is clear to me from the 40% request that you mean that to be literally true. I simply can't approve of that. I realize you have continued to RP with the church in the intervening time, and I realize now obviously that I should have broached this earlier with you, and I apologize for my error in that - but the point of CP approvals like this is to ensure we *don't* let unrealistic RP change the long term character of a nation, and this is just flat out unrealistic.
  
  I know you have stated you would be willing compromise on around 20-25% for the MCN - that's just not far enough for me. Generally speaking anything beyond 5%-10% ish has never been approved in CP updates - it's just too much in too short a time. It also just really doesn't make sense with the RP you've done - why did the church go from 3->30 million in 2 years, and then now it's flatlined at 49 million (40%) for nearly 100 years? If we went to 20% it would have actually shrank to 25 million! All of this is to highlight that the RP claim of 30 million just was never realistic and cannot really be used as support for the change. To approve, I'd need this to be around 5% as the OOC factual approved value. ICly the government could continue to say "50 million Trigunians attend MCN churches" and maybe that could even be true - plenty of people love to dance to the government tune when it helps them rise in status - but 50 million true believers in MCN in T/N isn't working for me. I think this would help enrich the RP in T/N, to be honest - you could then focus in on telling stories about who these conversos are, what role they play in society, and how others in society interact with them.

Like I mentioned before in my reply to Mbites question about it, I would happily lower the percentage of the MCN from 40% to around 20% or 25% with the difference in share being distributed back to the Augustan Church and the other bodies which I had taken some percentages from. However, I do admit that pre-unification NEC did push MCN propaganda pretty especially on the youth and were openly supporting of it until unification where most of the confederal parties divorced from the church to the exception of the HMDP.